tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5204092591876211047.post174524403240504063..comments2023-03-23T07:34:12.473-04:00Comments on Advanced NFL Stats Community: How Effective is Mike Martz as a Coach?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5204092591876211047.post-43905616153380064432011-01-01T14:43:06.188-05:002011-01-01T14:43:06.188-05:00You are way too kind to Martz. How has he been an...You are way too kind to Martz. How has he been anything but an abject failure this year with the Bears? They're still close to last in the league in team offense, and Cutler isn't in the top 20 of QBs after being in the top 10 twice with the Broncos.Bigmouthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04885083460724621786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5204092591876211047.post-70611533708787059592010-12-15T19:47:47.402-05:002010-12-15T19:47:47.402-05:00Something to consider to is the effect Martz has o...Something to consider to is the effect Martz has on his QB's in the area of sacks & knockdowns.<br /><br />I remember hearing the 'talking heads' repeatedly saying Martz's QBs take a beating because of the amount of 'scat'/empty pass protections he runs. This is bound to lead to more hits on the QB, and lessen his effectiveness as the season goes along I would expect.<br /><br />Another thing missing is the fact that an offense & defense must 'mesh' style wise. Martz's schemes don't do overly well with weaker defenses because it puts them on the field more often I would expect is we take into account time of possession. This would be a big factor in his demise in Detroit & San Fran.<br /><br /> This is one of the major failing Rich Rodriguez is having as the Michigan head coach. The offense is running a no-huddle hurry-up offense with a weak defense behind it. This increases the length of game for BOTH units, and a weak or inexperienced defense will give up more points for sure.ScoWeshttp://www.twitter.com/ScoWesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5204092591876211047.post-25163640235138608072010-12-13T13:17:40.925-05:002010-12-13T13:17:40.925-05:00As a Lions fan I devoted some study time to this t...As a Lions fan I devoted some study time to this too.<br /><br />I would propose that some of the decline in St Louis and Detroit after Martz left had to do with issues where weaker personalities had a hard time dealing with players used to Martz and his system.<br /><br />Linehan tried hard to accommodate the offensive gripes even to the extent of changing the route numbering scheme back to Martz's.<br /><br />In Detroit Martz was followed by Jim Coletto. Things got so bad that season that Jon Kitna started yelling at Coletto and the staff during games. While he was on the field. Once even while getting ready to bark out signals in the shotgun.<br /><br />Jon Kitna is one of the NFL's high character guys. Ex-teammates are nearly universal in praise. For Kitna to act like that things had to be pretty bad. And I'm convinced that part of the reason is the effect Martz has on many players.SportsGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02900787022759289513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5204092591876211047.post-7153509737796199312010-12-10T13:56:43.502-05:002010-12-10T13:56:43.502-05:00Thanks Bruce, Jim and Brian...
It would be great ...Thanks Bruce, Jim and Brian...<br /><br />It would be great to compare Martz to other coaches. My problem is (as i wrote to you) i can´t calculate SD, Regression and Correlation (i havn´t studied statistics). But i see we came to the same conclusions (about the importance of efficient passing, randomness, luck etc.).<br /><br />I understand your point Brian: It´s easier to make worse teams better (to the mean), but what i also see is that after Martz left teams, they fell back to their old (low) level.<br /><br />What i also see is that the "Martz-Factor" got lesser from team to team. That could be either opposing teams figured him out or that the sample size with the 49ers and Bears is to small. I guess (but don´t predict :-)), that in the last games and especially the next year the Bears Offense will improve.<br /><br />Greetings, Karl from GermanyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5204092591876211047.post-81962722959454725092010-12-10T10:08:52.143-05:002010-12-10T10:08:52.143-05:00Great job, Karl. I wonder, however, how much of th...Great job, Karl. I wonder, however, how much of the Martz-effect is due to regression to the mean. When new coaches are brought in to a team, it's usually because the team had previously been at a low point, and it's much easier to improve than to decline.<br /><br />I'd suggest as a next step, we compare Martz's before-and-after record to a standard for HCs and OCs. For example, say the average new OC sees an improvement of x games, and Martz had a y-game improvement. Therefore, Martz is better than average by y-x.Brian Burkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12371470711365236987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5204092591876211047.post-31110875669610508402010-12-09T20:26:51.354-05:002010-12-09T20:26:51.354-05:00An interesting read, thanks. It sure seems that Ma...An interesting read, thanks. It sure seems that Martz knows offense.Jim Glassnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5204092591876211047.post-34052081833932581122010-12-08T10:21:45.679-05:002010-12-08T10:21:45.679-05:00Nice analysis,
Very interesting.
I admit I was ...Nice analysis,<br /><br />Very interesting. <br /><br />I admit I was a doubter, but you converted me.<br /><br />It's great when someone can open your eyes and show valid reasons why your own preconceived notions could be all wrong.Bruce D.http://i60200nfl.clanteam.comnoreply@blogger.com